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John Terry 10 years 7 months ago #1

He should be left out of the team never mind just taking the captaincy off him !

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Re:John Terry 10 years 7 months ago #2

Hes the best defender and captain england have so i dont think capello should do anything, soon this will be all forgotten and lets be honest how many of us can say we havent cheated with a workmates missus??? B) plus looking at her in the paper wearing very little....you would wouldnt ya ;)

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Re:John Terry 10 years 7 months ago #3

:ohmy: I'm shocked Yorkshire think of poor JT's missus and children, his "Dad of the year" award is looking a bit daft now! I wonder if he's had Ashley Coles missus an all? "hawway pet it's got its mojo back"

He's a nasty little oik I'd drop him altogether!

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Re:John Terry 10 years 7 months ago #4

i too would drop him altogether. after all the problem in this country at the moment is that only too few people have the morals and respect for people and values that are the basis of decent society. a stand has to be made sooner or later if we are to get back to a decent caring society. drop him NOW.

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Re:John Terry 10 years 7 months ago #5

Had this had been Terry, a pipe fitter from Coventry who had had an affair with a former colleagues wife then he would not get the sack or any disciplinary action for doing so. The only time the employer would take any action would be if it had an affect on his work. In many respects you can make an argument for this been a private matter that has no bearing on his day job! On the basis he scored the winner on Saturday then it adds to this point of view

Having the said the above as a footballer he pays the price of the fame and earnings, which is living his life in the public eye. On the basis the guy has a couple of young kids his behaviour is poor, if you accept an award such as 'dad of the year' then you are morally bound to act like one!

To restore any trust he needs to come out and tell the full truth and make some apologies, that's the quickest way he will stop the media frenzy. If he did this then I don't think he should lose his captaincy or be dropped. He's going to have to accept plenty of abuse from away fans, probably some cancelled sponsorship contracts and perhaps his wife will decide to have half of everything he has. He'll pay the price in many different ways!

Whilst I different action it has similarities to when Beckham was sent off in the World Cup, the golden boy became hated overnight, like Beckham it is Terry's next actions that determine the public's response.
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Re:John Terry 10 years 7 months ago #6

Have to disagree on this one with you Rabbit.

A pipe fitter from Coventry does not set the moral standards for the youth of today to follow. The captain of England does!

I agree he should not have his captaincy removed by Fabio, rather he should do the decent thing by resigning. If he was committed to the England cause, he would resign as a player also, so as not to effect the morale of the team, especially those who have feelings towards Wayne Bridge!!!
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Re:John Terry 10 years 7 months ago #7

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.... set the moral standards for the youth of today to follow. The captain of England does!


There a plenty of very bad parents setting the moral standards for the youth of today, there are plenty of other influences than some overpaid centre half from a small club in Fulham!

The problem is Jeff that on that basis we will not be able to field a team in South Africa - Rooney's visits to massage parlours, Rio Ferdinand's missed drug's test, Ashley Cole's driving ban, Frank Lampard's split from his partner after reportedly playing away, Steven Gerrard's recent court case after a nightclub brawl, Gary Neville's gesture to Carlos Tevez on the touchline of the recent derby! Perhaps even the gambling habits of a few on the squad.

Which of the above are on the 'allowed list'?

I completely agree that footballer's have a responsibility but unfortunately working class lads who end up earning more money than you could ever dream of have a habit of letting them and others down.

Bring this argument a bit closer to home, should Joey Barton have ever been allowed to pull on a football shirt again? And whilst we're at it what about Lee Hughes?
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Re:John Terry 10 years 7 months ago #8

A captain of a team at any level is selected to set an example to others. If he or she can't do that they should be relieved of the duty.

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Re:John Terry 10 years 7 months ago #9

I think if he has a sense of decency (which is an oxymoron i guess) then he should relinquish the armband. How is Wayne Bridge going to feel now when meeting up for international duty?

there should be no debate on whether Terry should be stripped of the honour, he should step down voluntarily. However i don't think he should be dropped from the squad.

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Re:John Terry 10 years 7 months ago #10

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It HAS had an effect on his employment as England captain, not only has Bridge said he will not play in the same side as him but others in the squad will no doubt take sides thus effecting the morale of the team. The England captain should set an example, but rarely does as far as the Football team is concerned, other sports seem less effected by these kind of controversies, perhaps it is just the "nature of the beast" too many overpaid idiots playing the game who think because of the money they are entitled to do what they like, Gerrard is another example as are Rio Ferdinand, Joey Barton et al.
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Re:John Terry 10 years 7 months ago #11

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Have you seen her? i think he should be given 1 mins applause and be made captain of the world!
they love him at scotland yard.

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Re:John Terry 10 years 7 months ago #12

Apparently Capello's just phoned Wayne Bridge up and said "I've just spoken to John Terry and he's lost the Captains armband. Can you do me a favour and go and have a good look under your bed for me?"


Wayne Bridge sent his missus a replica of his willy made from Cadbury's chocolate. She said she prefer's Terry's...



They are probably worse than some of the puns that are posted on here....

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Re:John Terry 10 years 7 months ago #13

Let's put this into perspective. Perhaps looking from afar I have not seen all the coverage, but is the woman involved not Bridge's EX-girlfriend? I don't know if Terry was the reason for the EX - has that been established? If not then any reference to Bridge being "upset" or unable to play alongside Terry is nonsense.

Rabbit, some of your examples need further scrutiny. Was Wayne Rooney not single when he visited the massage parlour? Is it a crime?
Rio missed a drugs test as you said, not failed, but missed. Is that such a crime? Other than Rio being a daft git? Only the FA deemed it serious enough to enforce a huge ban - making the offence actually appear more serious than it actually was. Oh yes, and while I am on this - exactly the same offence committed by a player at a nearby club (City) was overlooked!
Ashley Cole's driving ban? Big deal. Who hasn't been guilty of speeding albeit not caught?
I think you'll find (as much as it galls me) that Saint Stevie of Gerrard was found not guilty!
Can we not forgive Lampard anything cos his mum just died. After all he's another saint who deserves special treatment, cos of course he's the first person who has ever lost his mum.
Gary Neville's gesture? Give me a break - he was provoked and that's all he did - calmly and cooly gave him the finger. I would have run on the pitch and lamped the greedy little ugly Argie ****! :cheer:
Gambling is not a crime. You are talking about millionaire young men. More money and time than they know what to do with. And given that the average professional footballer has an IQ equal to their pink or lime green boot size, is it any wonder they spend their money on fast cars, girls, night clubs, casinos etc.?

Having said all that Terry should be banned from playing football for life :laugh:
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Re:John Terry 10 years 7 months ago #14

Totally agree Eddie, Rooney, Lampard, Neville et al had not committed crimes and neither had John Terry. Jeff's point was that Terry set a bad moral example to the youth of today and the point is has he set any worse examples than the others? Based on the overall behaviour you can make a case that many of the squad fail to set a good moral example and if that is the case then we would not be able to field a team in South Africa.

What Terry has been is bloody stupid, in the position he has as national team captain he carries a responsibility and as a father to two young kids his life responsibilities are greater than his day job! I'll think he will suffer from his actions on many levels, the golden boy has tarnished his reputation.

I don't however believe that the FA will strip him of the captaincy and can argue that they are right based on the fact that his actions have not been criminal and are in his private life. Stupid yes, criminal no. Having said the above I think the only way he retains any ounce of trust and respect is to come out and reveal the full truth and as such stopping any further rumours/dirt dishing. He should probably offer his resignation which at the very least offers the FA an easy route to making that decision if they so wish.

As for Bridge not wanting to play in the same team, he should be so lucky he can't even get a game for City! Joking apart, that is Bridge's decision to make, frankly as the innocent party he should be the one with his head held high and not put his own career out. In the 1999 season Sheringham and Cole hated one another and never spoke, that year United won the treble and scored 97 goals!
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Re:John Terry 10 years 7 months ago #15

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Eddie, I believe that she is currently Bridge's ex, but at the time this was alleged to have happened, they were in a relationship.

All footballers, due to the nature of the sport, are in part responsible for the morals of youngsters, and also the behaviour of adults. If a young footballer sees a professional player dive during a match and win a penalty, then they will attempt to replicate. If they see the England captain cheating on his wife then they may well believe that this morally acceptable. I don't think that Terry should be dropped, he is far too good a player, however, he maybe should be stripped of the captaincy, if it will disrupt the rest of the squad.

Disruption is most likely to occur if Bridge is either in the squad, or gets chosen and refuses to go. However, if Capello sticks to his current selection policy, then Bridge is unlikely to go to South Africa anyway. Whatever the situation, it is ultimately Capello's decision whether Terry keeps the armband.
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