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Re: Witton v Hucknall part II 13 years 8 months ago #31

Hard luck to the boys last night...would notagree that we were an embarasment to the unibond league- big overreaction!! (lets not forget that we were playing a team from a higher league that play week in week out against fitter and better teams than we do)

We played well in patches and not so well in others but the penalty swung the match and until then we were well in with a shout...

Lets have a big win Saturday and as fans lets pull together and get behind Jim and the boys

COME ON WITTTEEERRRRRNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Witton v Hucknall part II 13 years 8 months ago #32

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Just like to correct an earlier entry. It wasn't Pritch that scored the home goal last night it was in fact Tom. ::)

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Re: Witton v Hucknall part II 13 years 8 months ago #33

from our perspective we think we played very well last night. Its got to be said though that but for a bizarre referee's decision saturday there would have been no need for a replay. The fans i met in your car park after the game were very courteous and friendly. Good luck in your quest for the unibond prem title and hopefully we'll be playing you again soon .

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Re: Witton v Hucknall part II 13 years 8 months ago #34

Almost every match thread on here someone critcises the fans. We're too quiet or we're too rowdy. The people who are getting criticised are the same people that pushed the race night, that attended Beaver, that support the coaches to away games. Do you appreciate how much money those on the coach contributed towards the Development Fund at the weekend?! Or on the Stocksbridge coach?! To turn around and openly criticise them - and i'm not just talking about Jim here - is a little unfair.

We took 100 - 120 to Hucknall. 3 or 4 people did 1 or 2 things that were less than perfect. Let's be realistic here; there was no fighting. The ref cost us the game, did he get a torrent of abuse like we have seen in the past? No. Our team went a goal down, did we get on their backs. No. Was there any criminal damage? No. We supported OUR team from first to last. We didn't perform, but we remained proud of them. That counts for alot - but no one ever seems to highlight that.

If you want us to take half a dozen perfectly behaved fans to away games, then i'm sure this can be arranged. I'm sure we can stand there in silence and not say anything that could be taken the wrong way. But that's not football AT ANY LEVEL. You go to Old Trafford, you will hear alot worse than you'll EVER hear at a Witton match. I wont condone anyone who does anything unacceptable, but there were no MAJOR incidents on Saturday.

Personally i am proud to be a Wittoner when we take that number away from home. Nothing happened on Saturday that can't just be sorted with a quiet word to those involved. I didn't see a single thing that made me ashamed to follow Witton. I am more ashamed when we start bickering amongst ourselves on here - it's a very GREEN & WHITE thing to do. Would Hucknall have us all back?! When counting up the till receipts on Saturday night i am sure that they would do!

Let's have some perspective - ALOT of us travelled to Hucknall. Some of us had a bad day at the office. Jim's program notes run the danger of tarring us all with the same brush, that's what caused an issue. I support Jim wholeheartedly, him and Nige have been great with the fans. But like i said earlier, i feel he knows most of us well enough to have a chat in the bar. He has some of our phone numbers, a call would suffice. Alot of us are guilty of getting over excited on Saturday - but that's all it was. There was no malicious intent from anyone. If there was then i would be joining in with the criticism.

We need to pull together, not work against each other. Saturday is a big game, and one we need to win. Let's focus on that, and stop having a pop at each other in public.



Absolutely spot on Mark, I feel like pulling my hair out sometimes. Some people are just never happy. Ever seen the programme "Grumpy old men"?!
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Re: Witton v Hucknall part II 13 years 8 months ago #35

from our perspective we think we played very well last night. Its got to be said though that but for a bizarre referee's decision saturday there would have been no need for a replay. The fans i met in your car park after the game were very courteous and friendly. Good luck in your quest for the unibond prem title and hopefully we'll be playing you again soon .


Cheers Bertie, I think you did a job last night and good luck to you. Your lads are big and strong and we could not cope with that.

Across the 2 games Mayman was the best player without a doubt. You can probably tell from our posts that we didn't feel we played as well as we could but to your credit you looked the only winners last night. All the best in the next round.

It would be interesting to get your take on the behaviour of our fans on Saturday as this appears to be a hot topic of discussion.

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Re: Witton v Hucknall part II 13 years 8 months ago #36

Shame about the result last night. If Witton kept the ball on the deck and played more football then i'm certain that it could have been a diffrent story, you have some decent attacking players but, high long ball tactics didn't do them any justice against a tall Hucknall side.

Despite the result i enjoyed the game, I'll be back on Saturday for some more. :)

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Re: Witton v Hucknall part II 13 years 8 months ago #37

Did not go to Hucknall so cannot comment but last night we were beaten by a better and stronger team, something we will have to be if we get promotion.

Good points Robbo - fans are all different - some noisey - some quiet - and occasionally some get carried away with the occasion when fuelled by the odd drink or two - but thats what makes football. I can live with that, it has never been any different in the 55 years I have been watching, nor should it so as lomg as nobody gets hurt.

As regards Jim's programmes notes - surely these kind of observations should come from the CHAIRMAN, he is the voice of the club. Apart from the first home match of the season I don't remember seeing any chairmans comments in the programme.

Peersy was unlucky to be sent off - yes he was late into the tackle because he was stretching for the ball - but it was not malicious and the Hucknall player was not even hurt. His suspension could hit us badly.

Keep to the Coca Cola boys on Sat ;) ;)

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Re: Witton v Hucknall part II 13 years 8 months ago #38

1) Did not go to Hucknall

2) the 55 years I have been watching

3) Keep to the Coca Cola boys on Sat


1) I know, you owe us £12 for the empty seat on the coach!! ;)

2) Surely not Peter!!!

3) Don't mention Coca-Cola, let's just say an unbranded soft-drink to be on the safe side!

Otherwise a splendid post!

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Re: Witton v Hucknall part II 13 years 8 months ago #39

A very balanced post Pete, cheers.

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Re: Witton v Hucknall part II 13 years 8 months ago #40

2) the 55 years I have been watching

was it you with the tin of marbles, bloody noise you made, shouldnt have been aloud.

parents didnt care in them days either. bah

kids have to much money these days.

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Re: Witton v Hucknall part II 13 years 7 months ago #41

I spoke to JV earlier this evening and whilst I would normally not type the contents of the conversation on a message board post I thought it may be appropriate in this instance.

Jim was keen to clarify his thoughts regarding the fans and the reaction to his programme notes. It was conveyed to me in no uncertain terms how much the support is valued and how strong the relationship is between the team, management and fans. He regards the supporters as the life and soul of the club and has said on record that the Witton fans are head and shoulders above those of any other club of this level and arguably higher in the non-league structure. There is huge amounts of recognition for the fundraising activities and the efforts of the fans to support the club.

The above is a part of why Jim wants to keep it this way and to feedback with his thoughts - in no way whatsoever was there any intent to 'slate the fans' as has been interpreted by many.

I put it to Jim that I was listening to chants at a game in Chesterfield 15 years ago when the away fans were singing "you can stick your twisted spire up you a***"!!! The point being that chants of such a nature are common place within the game up and down the country. Jim understands that and has been around the game long enough to have heard more than most. He is not suggesting for a minute that we are running a "Church Flower Arranging Society" (my amusing words not his) but by the same token his points are valid. Abusive or aggressive chants towards the opposition are not always necessary.

The main point, over which I would agree entirely with his comments, are with regards to the opponent's social club where there are areas where children and mums are present. Swearing and aggression in these environments is not right. Many clubs like ours are trying to encourage juniors and families into the club and the social club is not a suitable environment for the such language.

I believe beyond any shadow of doubt that Jim's comments were made with the best interests of the club at heart and with genuine affection and respect for each and every fan of the club. You cannot fail to agree with his points regards the use of such language around the mums and children, I will swear like a b****** in front of mates but I wouldn't necessarily use the same language in front of my mother or the local vicar (not that I ever got to church anyway)! The point being there is a time and a place for such chants.

We all represent Witton Albion when we go home or away with the club and therefore it is in the interest of everyone that we do this positively. I did remark to Jim the way the message appeared and that the emphasis appeared to be on the negative and not the positive, plus that the timing of people reading it 10 minutes before the game did not help.

Whether people agree or disagree with Jim's thoughts he deserves the respect to be able to make his point without being shot down - as do we.
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Re: Witton v Hucknall part II 13 years 7 months ago #42

In the words of Dave in the Royle Family "nice one James"
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Re: Witton v Hucknall part II 13 years 7 months ago #43

Whilst accepting that Jim's comments were never meant to offend - and thanks to Jim and Simon for coming together to clarify this - by the same token, none of us set out to offend anyone at Hucknall either. Yes a few people were far too rowdy, and it is unfortunate that most of this came to boiling point in the social club (which i admit is not the most suitable place for this to happen). However, it was not done to offend it was soley just a group of lads who had had a few to drink and went a little OTT.

And again it is important to remember that there was no violence, and that in the main everything was intended as light-hearted banter.

Overall, there are lessons to be learned all round. We all know Jim values the fans, that is why his words came as so much of a shock on Tuesday.

Let's just move on from it now.

Thanks to Jim for taking the time to speak to Simon about this.

Onwards and upwards!

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Re: Witton v Hucknall part II 13 years 7 months ago #44

Well said, Robbo - and I thought you made the case for the defence very eloquently in your earlier post as well. I'm sure Jim, and the club generally, appreciate all the efforts made by you and the rest of the hooligans (don't take offence, tongue firmly in cheek with that one!). Our fans are like having a 12th man in the team.

However, I could see his point of view, and I think it should be taken as constructive criticism - we all want Witton to be the best club, in all respects, and we can all play our part in that, so we should welcome any improvement that can be made.

Incidentally, it's good to see the high level of civilised debate that takes place on this forum! It makes entertaining reading, and there have been some very well-written posts, not only on this thread regarding where to draw the line when supporting your team (one man's banter is another man's abuse!), but also, for instance, on the ethics of accepting sponsorship from global companies.

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Re: Witton v Hucknall part II 13 years 7 months ago #45

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Thats what I said in my earlier post lets move on get behind the team on Saturday and lift them. Jim has a high opinion of the fans but like us he is entitled to highlight any constructive concerns just as we've done with certain players for instance.
We were given a "bloody nose" on Tuesday but lets go for the knockout punch tomorrow against Ferriby. I know they are perhaps not doing as well this season but there are no easy games so lets be positive, not underestimate them and get the three points. Its good to have the healthy banter on here and as I've said 99.99% of our fans are absolutely brilliant so some of you lads who feel you are being got at stop it as thats not the case. We do however just need to channel a very very small minority of our people into positive rather than abusive vocal support for the team.
A request to those behind the goal can we have the new Rod Thornley song again tomorrow its really humurous without being obscene!Absolutely brilliant stuff!!
Two of our closest rivals play each other tomorrow so a nice draw would be good or a defeat for Fleetwood and thats no disrespect to them its just they are the closest to us in terms of points.

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